Archive for the ‘worship’ Category

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New Seventh Day Slumber Worship

March 11, 2009
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New Seventh Day Slumber Worship

March 11, 2009

http://www.tangle.com/flash/swf/flvplayer.swf

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"Worship in spirit and in truth"

May 6, 2008
Working Hands John Crosley
Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. ~ John 4:23
Just a thought. We worship in spirit and in Truth. but does that mean disembodiment? Is “spirit” detached? For that matter, is Truth only mental assent to doctrine? Especially if Jesus is Truth incarnate? If we detach the spiritual union of Christ in us an we in Him, and also detach truth from Christ in only a abstraction of thought… are we still connected to the Head which is Christ?

Interestingly that the word “Spirit” in John 4:24 means also “wind” or “breath” or “life”… while the word “Truth” means truth, but also “truly”.

If we look closely at this verse I wonder if instead of disembodied abstraction of thought sort of worship, which seems to be what I learned or have caught from others, we are to live our in our life our very true worship unto God. It is interactive and not something that is so out there in the “heavens” as not to be obtained. I think that Jesus was stating that instead of temple made of stone we are to worship God in our truly living Life…

I just wonder if true worship is not in our church buildings, but in the build up of dirt under our fingers as we work out our salvation by the Power of the Holy Spirit and God working His perfect will and purpose in and through us.
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"Worship in spirit and in truth"

May 6, 2008
Working Hands John Crosley
Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. ~ John 4:23
Just a thought. We worship in spirit and in Truth. but does that mean disembodiment? Is “spirit” detached? For that matter, is Truth only mental assent to doctrine? Especially if Jesus is Truth incarnate? If we detach the spiritual union of Christ in us an we in Him, and also detach truth from Christ in only a abstraction of thought… are we still connected to the Head which is Christ?

Interestingly that the word “Spirit” in John 4:24 means also “wind” or “breath” or “life”… while the word “Truth” means truth, but also “truly”.

If we look closely at this verse I wonder if instead of disembodied abstraction of thought sort of worship, which seems to be what I learned or have caught from others, we are to live our in our life our very true worship unto God. It is interactive and not something that is so out there in the “heavens” as not to be obtained. I think that Jesus was stating that instead of temple made of stone we are to worship God in our truly living Life…

I just wonder if true worship is not in our church buildings, but in the build up of dirt under our fingers as we work out our salvation by the Power of the Holy Spirit and God working His perfect will and purpose in and through us.
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Just for Laughs

February 28, 2008
Be sure to have your sound on… but if you are at work better wait till you get home!
Be Blessed,
iggy
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Just for Laughs

February 28, 2008
Be sure to have your sound on… but if you are at work better wait till you get home!
Be Blessed,
iggy
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Chris Pajak Rocks!

February 23, 2008

Hey for all the things Chris Pajak has stated that were outrageous the guy rocks… He is a worship leader at his church and they sound great. And contrary to what some might say, he is not a bad looking guy! (No I am not a “man loving semi pelagian” but Chris does go to an Assembly of God) LOL!
Be blessed,
iggy
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Chris Pajak Rocks!

February 23, 2008

Hey for all the things Chris Pajak has stated that were outrageous the guy rocks… He is a worship leader at his church and they sound great. And contrary to what some might say, he is not a bad looking guy! (No I am not a “man loving semi pelagian” but Chris does go to an Assembly of God) LOL!
Be blessed,
iggy
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Power in Prayer rather Power Behind Prayer

March 22, 2007

Prayer is seeking the heart of God… and that is the Power of Prayer…

But let’s explore a bit of what this means and does not mean.

1. It means that we connect with the heart of God.

In connecting with the heart of God one will see God move in action. Some teach that we can by our prayers “move” God… yet it is not that our prayers “move” God in the sense that we make Him do our bidding, rather God is moved with compassion by our earnest prayer.

The Old Testament is full of verses of statements like in 1 Kings 9: 3. “The LORD said to him: “I have heard the prayer and plea you have made before me:”
In which God does something to honor the faith that was displayed. There are many other references in which God states plainly that He “heard the prayer” and responds to the prayer.

Now, again it is not about “moving” God as in some sort of controlling Him. It is the idea that God, being of great compassion responds to faith. This is more like when Jesus saw the people’s faith and responded to it by healing them, which leads me to point two.

2. It does not mean we in our prayer have some power to make God do something.

We cannot “make” God do anything. God wants us to be subject to His will and never has God been subject to the will of man. Even Jesus stated that “I lay down my life” so even His death was by His own will. In no way is the “Power of Prayer” about that… most realize this outside of some in the Word of Faith movement… yet most of those have reduced Jesus to the equivalent of a “Soda Pop machine in the sky”.

3. The Power of Prayer is the Union of our spirit and the Holy Spirit seeking out God’s will and purpose so we may line up with it. It is about changing us. The “Power” is the Holy Spirit working in us… as we “pray”.

Some claim we do not “believe in prayer” yet to say that is like saying we do not believe in clouds or the moon. It does exist so if someone objects to that “phrasing” is a bit silly. Yet, in agreement there is at no time one worships or believes that prayer is the end all of power in and of itself. Prayer as i have said is a connection. It is the union of mortal and divine and opens mere man to the Power that is God.

We must be careful not to worship the power of God at the expense of God, nor worship the power of prayer at the expense of God in Whom we are praying to.

Yet, the “power of prayer” as a phrase is not unbiblical, and as one grows more and more in Christ one finds that like we need the power of oxygen to use as “fuel” for our bodies, so prayer becomes as if it is the air we breathe… it is a life giving force if connected to the Life of Christ otherwise we are just as well shouting into the wind.

Blessings,
iggy

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Power in Prayer rather Power Behind Prayer

March 22, 2007

Prayer is seeking the heart of God… and that is the Power of Prayer…

But let’s explore a bit of what this means and does not mean.

1. It means that we connect with the heart of God.

In connecting with the heart of God one will see God move in action. Some teach that we can by our prayers “move” God… yet it is not that our prayers “move” God in the sense that we make Him do our bidding, rather God is moved with compassion by our earnest prayer.

The Old Testament is full of verses of statements like in 1 Kings 9: 3. “The LORD said to him: “I have heard the prayer and plea you have made before me:”
In which God does something to honor the faith that was displayed. There are many other references in which God states plainly that He “heard the prayer” and responds to the prayer.

Now, again it is not about “moving” God as in some sort of controlling Him. It is the idea that God, being of great compassion responds to faith. This is more like when Jesus saw the people’s faith and responded to it by healing them, which leads me to point two.

2. It does not mean we in our prayer have some power to make God do something.

We cannot “make” God do anything. God wants us to be subject to His will and never has God been subject to the will of man. Even Jesus stated that “I lay down my life” so even His death was by His own will. In no way is the “Power of Prayer” about that… most realize this outside of some in the Word of Faith movement… yet most of those have reduced Jesus to the equivalent of a “Soda Pop machine in the sky”.

3. The Power of Prayer is the Union of our spirit and the Holy Spirit seeking out God’s will and purpose so we may line up with it. It is about changing us. The “Power” is the Holy Spirit working in us… as we “pray”.

Some claim we do not “believe in prayer” yet to say that is like saying we do not believe in clouds or the moon. It does exist so if someone objects to that “phrasing” is a bit silly. Yet, in agreement there is at no time one worships or believes that prayer is the end all of power in and of itself. Prayer as i have said is a connection. It is the union of mortal and divine and opens mere man to the Power that is God.

We must be careful not to worship the power of God at the expense of God, nor worship the power of prayer at the expense of God in Whom we are praying to.

Yet, the “power of prayer” as a phrase is not unbiblical, and as one grows more and more in Christ one finds that like we need the power of oxygen to use as “fuel” for our bodies, so prayer becomes as if it is the air we breathe… it is a life giving force if connected to the Life of Christ otherwise we are just as well shouting into the wind.

Blessings,
iggy