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Just part of a conversation I am having this week.

January 3, 2010

To me, faith is beyond science. It is the infinite trying to express the eternal. It cannot be done adequately with the limitations we now have. Can we now walk through closed doors as Jesus is said to have done after the resurrection? No. yet according to Paul we will be like Jesus and apparently will be able to do such things. The limitation of things like gravity and even the elements of this planet will bow to us… remember how Jesus walked on water and commanded the storm to stop?
In the story of Elijah and Elisha Elijah opens the eyes of his servant and reveals a whole other world happening that Elisha never saw. I see that the Kingdom was, is and ever will be… on earth as in heaven… in the physical as it is in the spiritual… It is the melding of the two no the dualism you keep asserting on these ideas. That is the real issue I see in this conversation is that you keep asserting modernist scientific views on the bible instead of allowing it to speak in its historical context. Personally, I could never understand where people state the bible teaches the earth is flat and the sun revolves around the earth I read in Job and Genesis how God created the universe for the earth to light it, but not that everything revolves around it… It may be the center of the story, but not the literal placement.
If one asserts a modern view then one begins to have the many issues you are having. That is why modernism is so wrong to push on the bible. It begins to gut it of its glory. If we dissect the bible like a frog, we kill it as we do the frog… to experience a frog one must go to a pond and watch the frog in his world. I see some value in the sterile ideas of dissection… one can understand the language and then the ideas better, but to just use the scientific method on the bible kills it. Just as just using the post-modern ideas of deconstruction. Both modernism and post modernism are great tools, but both lack the value and instruction of the Holy Spirit, which gives life to us, and the text of scripture.
I am very honest of the cosmology of the bible. I see it as it is and acknowledge there is much I do not. Yet, the things I do not know are the wonder, awe, and mystery I have chosen to embrace along with what God began in me many years ago.
To ask if Jesus literally flew in outer space during the ascension is a rather silly question to me. It is assuming that Heaven is a physical place… like the earthly realm… it is not… it is beyond what we have here. Heavenly things are so far beyond what mere words cannot express what it is. It is like expressing the body soul and spirit. We get the body and how it works… we somewhat understand the soul/mind and how it works, but we do not have any grasp on how the body lives… or how the spirit works. We can weigh someone at death and witness mysterious loss of 21 grams which they claim is the soul (I think it is the spirit). We just know that without the spirit we are dead.
The cosmology of the bible is not “literal” but expressions of the intangible… they are to allow us to grasp what is beyond what we understand and see… and bring us in. If you ever read Revelation you will see words such as, “It was like…” It appeared as…” which give indication to what I am saying.
I am one that still takes much literally/historically but I also understand that often the story is more important than the literalness. Was it a whale or great fish that swallowed Jonah? Who cares… that is not the point of the story. Therefore, I focus on the teachings and important things instead of trying to prove that the bible can be proven by modern scientific standards… I accept that sometimes it cannot as it is beyond the limitations of modern science… and man’s mind or even imagination. “For the eye has not seen or the mind conceived what God has in store for us.” I embrace that God is God without limitations and I am a mere creation with great limitations. I embrace that mystery that was, is, and yet is to come.
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Show me how to live…

November 23, 2009
Each day we struggle with being a fallen creature who God has redeemed. If one is honest they will look in the mirror and see there is really nothing “special” about them that God would stoop low and offer salvation to any of us.
Yet, through Jesus we have just that! Audioslave is not a “Christian” group, yet within some of their lyrics there is this sense of struggle to live true to one’s beliefs. Taking in that balance of coming into faith and believing God does see you as you are and loves you… and wills not to leave you how you are but to draw you ever deeper into Jesus Christ and show us how to live… and overcome our broken and fallen being and enter into something deeper that we could even imagine. “You gave me life now
Show me how to live”…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5Ww8AHt49U
Show Me How To Live Lyrics
Artist(Band):Audioslave
In with the early dawn
Moving right along
I couldn’t buy an eye full of sleep
And in the aching night
Under satellites
I was not received
built with the stolen parts
A telephone in my heart
Someone get me a priest
To put my mind to bed
This ringing in my head
Is this a cure or is this a disease
Nail in my hand
From my creator
You gave me life now
Show me how to live
Nail in my hand
From my creator
You gave me life now
Show me how to live
In the afterbirth
On the quiet earth
Let this things remind you
You thought you made a man
You better think again
Before my role defines you
Nail in my hand
From my creator
You gave me a life
Now show me how to live
Nail in my hand
From my creator
You gave me life now
Show me how to live
And in your waiting hands
I will land
And roll out of my skin
And in your final hours I will stand
Ready to begin
Ready to begin
Ready to begin
Ready to begin
Nail in my hand
From my creator
You gave me life now
Show me how to live
Nail in my hand
From my creator
You gave me life now
Show me how to live
Show me how to live
Show me how to live
Show me how to live
Show me how to live
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Just a thought…

November 19, 2009

Many want to interpret the bible through their words; I resolve to interpret the bible through my actions.

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Just a moment of your time; if you are not too B.U.S.Y

October 10, 2009

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A snippet of a Barth Quote with a thought….

March 1, 2009

“Our challenge, as preachers, is not to master God’s word but rather to develop the skills to listen to God without despising God for speaking to us.” ~ Conversations with Barth on Preaching by William H. Willimon p. 165

Interesting thought as so many see that they can “conquer” and “master” God’s word. It then seems to reduce God’s word into a tool and make it subject to our human will than to allow it to change us by the prompting and moving of the Holy Spirit. I sometimes am amazed when I find my theology hold me back from growing. Some seem to think this is the same thing, that knowledge = growth, yet sometimes it is the things we “think” we know that keep us from learning what we need to know to grow…
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A snippet of a Barth Quote with a thought….

March 1, 2009

“Our challenge, as preachers, is not to master God’s word but rather to develop the skills to listen to God without despising God for speaking to us.” ~ Conversations with Barth on Preaching by William H. Willimon p. 165

Interesting thought as so many see that they can “conquer” and “master” God’s word. It then seems to reduce God’s word into a tool and make it subject to our human will than to allow it to change us by the prompting and moving of the Holy Spirit. I sometimes am amazed when I find my theology hold me back from growing. Some seem to think this is the same thing, that knowledge = growth, yet sometimes it is the things we “think” we know that keep us from learning what we need to know to grow…
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What I think about when I listen to Way of the Master Radio

January 29, 2009

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