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If you are a Baptist one of your Tenants of Faith is…

November 29, 2006

If you are a Baptist one of your Tenants of Faith is…

If you are a Baptist one of your Tenants of Faith is… a relationship with Christ.

(I knew this yet it seems some of those associated with the SBC have forgotten)

I was reading up on the SBC (Southern Baptist Convention).

It seems that I would be a great SBC member… and I even for a time considered SBC for ordination as they are short pastors especially in rural Montana. I have a great friend in Arizona Dr. David Powell, who was ready to write a letter of recommendation if I had decided to pursue that idea… yet, (though many do affirm the gifts of the spirit) I did not want my view of the Gifts of the Spirit to ever come to be an issue. What I mean is that I am a bit too Pentecostal for the SBC. Over all I think they are wonderful Christ centered denomination… in fact as I was looking, I found that one of their emphasis is to bring people to a “relationship with Christ Jesus” and their stand on creeds (thought they consider themselves “creedal”) is that they must be run through the filter of scripture… and to that I say “RIGHT ON!” as this is what I teach.

I was really a bit shocked over their view of ministers…

“Ministers
Within the Southern Baptist Convention, the licensing and ordination of ministers is a local church matter.
There is no denominational ordination service. The list of Southern Baptist ministers is simply a compilation from the reports of the churches. The Southern Baptist convention neither frocks nor defrocks ministers.”

Which then seems really strange to have been attacked by someone from that denomination over what they claim is my “fraudulent ordination”. As UCMI (see link on right links section) basically does this, only from a national level then after a years probation gives one full status of “ordination”. And after these steps are fulfilled and some educational steps are fulfilled one can then request for a church charter… really it would have been much easier for me to become a Baptist pastor!
All in all this journey of faith that brought me to Billings to plant a church has been a real adventure. The 2 years of struggles to get a fellowship going and then find my current place as an intern and one the ministry leadership team at Billings Vineyard truly shows me God was in the vision of the church plant, and not just by doing it myself, but with Godly mentorship that I was seeking through UCMI. God is good… He will complete the task He has for you, me or anyone to do that He lays on one’s heart. Continue to be faithful to that vision that God has given you… and if you are not sure if He has, pray that your eyes and ears and mostly your heart is opened to His Calling. In spite of slanderous attacks God has preserved me, in fact I have been seeing more and more fruit out of this as more people come to me and say they appreciate what God is doing through me… that is not meant to sound arrogant, as I mean it to only point to Jesus to bring Him more Glory.

I anticipate God doing great things… God is moving mightily already in Billings Vineyard. I will say that I have never been part of a church that has allowed me to be me… meaning to be able to freely express my faith in Christ without hiding things or gifts like tongues or when I was part of the AoG that I believe in eternal security. Mostly I have found friendship with the people at Billings Vineyard and people that truly love the people of Billings…

All this I count as blessings upon blessings… and hope out of all this to be able to focus more on blessings other and focus on ways to do just that by the Power of God.

Blessings to all!
iggy


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If you are a Baptist one of your Tenants of Faith is…

November 29, 2006

If you are a Baptist one of your Tenants of Faith is…

If you are a Baptist one of your Tenants of Faith is… a relationship with Christ.

(I knew this yet it seems some of those associated with the SBC have forgotten)

I was reading up on the SBC (Southern Baptist Convention).

It seems that I would be a great SBC member… and I even for a time considered SBC for ordination as they are short pastors especially in rural Montana. I have a great friend in Arizona Dr. David Powell, who was ready to write a letter of recommendation if I had decided to pursue that idea… yet, (though many do affirm the gifts of the spirit) I did not want my view of the Gifts of the Spirit to ever come to be an issue. What I mean is that I am a bit too Pentecostal for the SBC. Over all I think they are wonderful Christ centered denomination… in fact as I was looking, I found that one of their emphasis is to bring people to a “relationship with Christ Jesus” and their stand on creeds (thought they consider themselves “creedal”) is that they must be run through the filter of scripture… and to that I say “RIGHT ON!” as this is what I teach.

I was really a bit shocked over their view of ministers…

“Ministers
Within the Southern Baptist Convention, the licensing and ordination of ministers is a local church matter.
There is no denominational ordination service. The list of Southern Baptist ministers is simply a compilation from the reports of the churches. The Southern Baptist convention neither frocks nor defrocks ministers.”

Which then seems really strange to have been attacked by someone from that denomination over what they claim is my “fraudulent ordination”. As UCMI (see link on right links section) basically does this, only from a national level then after a years probation gives one full status of “ordination”. And after these steps are fulfilled and some educational steps are fulfilled one can then request for a church charter… really it would have been much easier for me to become a Baptist pastor!
All in all this journey of faith that brought me to Billings to plant a church has been a real adventure. The 2 years of struggles to get a fellowship going and then find my current place as an intern and one the ministry leadership team at Billings Vineyard truly shows me God was in the vision of the church plant, and not just by doing it myself, but with Godly mentorship that I was seeking through UCMI. God is good… He will complete the task He has for you, me or anyone to do that He lays on one’s heart. Continue to be faithful to that vision that God has given you… and if you are not sure if He has, pray that your eyes and ears and mostly your heart is opened to His Calling. In spite of slanderous attacks God has preserved me, in fact I have been seeing more and more fruit out of this as more people come to me and say they appreciate what God is doing through me… that is not meant to sound arrogant, as I mean it to only point to Jesus to bring Him more Glory.

I anticipate God doing great things… God is moving mightily already in Billings Vineyard. I will say that I have never been part of a church that has allowed me to be me… meaning to be able to freely express my faith in Christ without hiding things or gifts like tongues or when I was part of the AoG that I believe in eternal security. Mostly I have found friendship with the people at Billings Vineyard and people that truly love the people of Billings…

All this I count as blessings upon blessings… and hope out of all this to be able to focus more on blessings other and focus on ways to do just that by the Power of God.

Blessings to all!
iggy


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Your listening to iggyROCKS!

November 28, 2006

I know that some people do not like music on a website… So if you do not care to hear it just scroll down to the player on the left column and hit pause. (Actually I think I just fixed that, so if you do want to listen then click on the play button.)

So, Enjoy!

iggyROCKS! is my online Christian radio station that helps Christian indie artist get airplay along side the big names. This ministry is a free service to artists.

If you are a Christian artist, group, or even talk/teaching show feel free to contact me by email and I will tell you how to submit you songs/show.

blessings,
iggy


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Your listening to iggyROCKS!

November 28, 2006

I know that some people do not like music on a website… So if you do not care to hear it just scroll down to the player on the left column and hit pause. (Actually I think I just fixed that, so if you do want to listen then click on the play button.)

So, Enjoy!

iggyROCKS! is my online Christian radio station that helps Christian indie artist get airplay along side the big names. This ministry is a free service to artists.

If you are a Christian artist, group, or even talk/teaching show feel free to contact me by email and I will tell you how to submit you songs/show.

blessings,
iggy


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Christianity a relationship based faith…?

November 28, 2006

My assumption is that when the Gospel is preached, that one is called ot come to a point to accept Jesus in their heart… it seems that some do not agree with that…

Please leave a comment on why you chose the one you did and even a bit of your testimony. I would love to hear it.

So here is a poll… blessings!
iggy


Is your Christian faith based on relationship with Jesus?

yes
no
maybe

View Results


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Christianity a relationship based faith…?

November 28, 2006

My assumption is that when the Gospel is preached, that one is called ot come to a point to accept Jesus in their heart… it seems that some do not agree with that…

Please leave a comment on why you chose the one you did and even a bit of your testimony. I would love to hear it.

So here is a poll… blessings!
iggy


Is your Christian faith based on relationship with Jesus?

yes
no
maybe

View Results


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Some perspective please!

November 27, 2006

Some perspective please!

Recently and I believe there still is a protest against Mark Driscoll coming soon over his views on women. He is being called a misogynist.

I jumped into the fray at Bob Hyatt’s blog and soon found I too was an insensitive person who negated the feelings of those who were “abused” under Mark Driscoll…. As I asked simply to “have some perspective” and “get over it”.

I will go into the have some perspective in a moment. Though right now I want to address the “get over it”…

Mark never actually physically harmed anyone… his views are a bit Neanderthal and fundamentalist… he at times is part of the EC and then not… so I see him a bit indecisive at times. What I meant about “get over it” is this.

I see that we Christians in America have become so infected with the world… we have lost sight of being servants and are really overly concerned with “our rights”… I do not remember Jesus stating we are to even seek after “our rights”. Though some rights are God given, many are what we seem to “feel” we are just plain obligated to get. I see this as the outcome of the Americanized gospel that is self seeking and not Christ seeking. We are called to seek Christ and His Kingdom… not our own. It is just plain selfish. Again, some people are truly hurt, but to me, if you did not like Mars Hill and Mark Driscoll… you should have left… and instead of being a victim, rose in victory in Christ and walked out the same doors you came in through. Besides, this is America and one right we have is freedom of speech… and Mark is as free as anyone to say what he wants, even if no one agrees with him.

As far as perspective the people that are out to protest Mark over his fundamentalist views are endfundamentalism.org. (Just cut and paste as I do not care to link to them).

I said that if one needs to protest against abuse of women protest the human sex slave industry…

Now, I am angry…

This last week the Shiites literally burn alive a group of Sunni… and not one person has protetested that human rights abomination!

Again, is it just plain selfishness? Is the lint in our own belly button more important than a group of people slaughtering another? How about the Darfur atrocitiesand how it is affecting the children there?

Yet, Mark Driscoll is the devil… and I am sure he has never worn Prada!

So again, get a perspective… and get over it… and pray for real issues and problems this world is having… stop turning brother against brother…sister against sister… and let’s protest and speak out against real pain and real issues…

If there are real men and women out there please contact me if you are interested in protesting these issues.

Blessings,
iggy


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Some perspective please!

November 27, 2006

Some perspective please!

Recently and I believe there still is a protest against Mark Driscoll coming soon over his views on women. He is being called a misogynist.

I jumped into the fray at Bob Hyatt’s blog and soon found I too was an insensitive person who negated the feelings of those who were “abused” under Mark Driscoll…. As I asked simply to “have some perspective” and “get over it”.

I will go into the have some perspective in a moment. Though right now I want to address the “get over it”…

Mark never actually physically harmed anyone… his views are a bit Neanderthal and fundamentalist… he at times is part of the EC and then not… so I see him a bit indecisive at times. What I meant about “get over it” is this.

I see that we Christians in America have become so infected with the world… we have lost sight of being servants and are really overly concerned with “our rights”… I do not remember Jesus stating we are to even seek after “our rights”. Though some rights are God given, many are what we seem to “feel” we are just plain obligated to get. I see this as the outcome of the Americanized gospel that is self seeking and not Christ seeking. We are called to seek Christ and His Kingdom… not our own. It is just plain selfish. Again, some people are truly hurt, but to me, if you did not like Mars Hill and Mark Driscoll… you should have left… and instead of being a victim, rose in victory in Christ and walked out the same doors you came in through. Besides, this is America and one right we have is freedom of speech… and Mark is as free as anyone to say what he wants, even if no one agrees with him.

As far as perspective the people that are out to protest Mark over his fundamentalist views are endfundamentalism.org. (Just cut and paste as I do not care to link to them).

I said that if one needs to protest against abuse of women protest the human sex slave industry…

Now, I am angry…

This last week the Shiites literally burn alive a group of Sunni… and not one person has protetested that human rights abomination!

Again, is it just plain selfishness? Is the lint in our own belly button more important than a group of people slaughtering another? How about the Darfur atrocitiesand how it is affecting the children there?

Yet, Mark Driscoll is the devil… and I am sure he has never worn Prada!

So again, get a perspective… and get over it… and pray for real issues and problems this world is having… stop turning brother against brother…sister against sister… and let’s protest and speak out against real pain and real issues…

If there are real men and women out there please contact me if you are interested in protesting these issues.

Blessings,
iggy


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The Gospel… is there more than one?

November 27, 2006

The Gospel… is there more than one?

Many go to the writings of Paul to teach what the Gospel is… in that there is nothing wrong, yet, I have found many times that these seem to have a certain bend to what they call the Gospel.

Some seem to even imply that there is only the Gospel of Jesus and that being his death burial and resurrection. Again, I do not see that as anything “wrong”, yet I see it is much more than that…To say that was all there was reduces the reality we now have… the Kingdom at hand.

“And this Gospel of the Kingdom”

Jesus came and began preaching. We read in Matthew Jesus was teaching to watch out about false teachers and that a greater treachery would come. I am not going to go into the “desolation of abomination” because I am focused on the one phrase…

“And this Gospel of the Kingdom”

Jesus was preaching a Gospel… in that one must either believe that Jesus preached one Gospel and Paul another…as it seem some teach, yet I see that Paul’s gospel fits right in the Gospel that Jesus was bringing to us.

What was the Gospel of the Kingdom?

There is no way to adequately post all the intricate details that come with that question… so this will be a very brief and broad overview… For deeper reading I recommend N.T. Wright. In this I will be leaning heavily on his writings… Do not bother in telling me how Wright is all wrong about everything as I think he is contributing greatly with his insights… even if he may be off a bit here or there. To dismiss him would be a travesty.

The Gospel was not a new idea. In fact it was used by the Roman Empire to proclaim the new emperor.

NT Wright writes:

“In Paul’s day, the cult of Caesar was the fastest-growing religion in the Mediterranean world. In Rome itself the emperors did not claim full divine honors, but they did adopt the title “son of god”-the god in question being their recently deceased, and newly deified, predecessor. And in the provinces, from Greece and Turkey through the Middle East to Egypt, divinization was standard. The people had worshiped rulers before; why shouldn’t Augustus and his successors, with their extraordinary powers, receive the same divine honors?
So the imperial cult grew. Its “good news” was that Caesar, the son of God, was now the lord of the whole world, claiming allegiance from everybody in return for bringing salvation and justice to the world. Resistance was met with crucifixion. The system was based on sheer power.”

So the idea of a “Gospel” was not something new with Paul… or with Jesus… It was however directly subversive to proclaim another Gospel… as it was to say that Caesar was not divine, nor truly Lord… nor that his kingdom of supreme… With that Jesus proclaimed His Gospel in the face of Caesar and in defiance of Rome. Again, this was subversive and a political declaration of something greater that the Roman Empire… and that was the return of God and His Theocracy. The Gospel of Mark begins with the very proclamation,

Mark 1:1. The beginning of the gospel about Jesus Christ, the Son of God.

Originally God wanted to be King of Israel, yet Israel rejected God and chose Saul. Yet, at the appointed time God, through Jesus came to proclaim His Kingdom and would restore all things to Himself.

That was the Gospel of the Kingdom. This is the Gospel of Jesus and of Paul. The Gospel did not change as it went from Jesus to Paul, but kept complete continuity. This Gospel was what Paul proclaimed as he said: “every knee will bow before me; every tongue will confess to God.” (Rom 14:12) This was also in the proclamation of Caesar as it was demanded to obey Caesar or die.

In that continued Gospel it finds it’s fullness in Christ. Paul by revelation gives us insight to what Jesus taught of Himself… “Matthew 16: 21 From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, chief priests and teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.” Again, there is the continuity…

So we have the big picture… the Kingdom of God is now here… or as it is said, “at hand”. We also see the teaching of Jesus lines up with Paul.

We have one Gospel… it is not just about me… getting saved to go to heaven… though it is part of the story. Yet to stop there is to deny the Gospel in its fullness. The Gospel is the Proclamation that is taught in the Lord’s Prayer. “Your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.” (Matt 6:10)

That is the gospel… God’s Kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven and in it we are part of the bigger picture. This is the Abrahamic promise in fulfillment. We gentiles have been blessed through the Jews… by Jesus… we are now blessed to be a blessing to the world!

Blessings,
iggy


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The Gospel… is there more than one?

November 27, 2006

The Gospel… is there more than one?

Many go to the writings of Paul to teach what the Gospel is… in that there is nothing wrong, yet, I have found many times that these seem to have a certain bend to what they call the Gospel.

Some seem to even imply that there is only the Gospel of Jesus and that being his death burial and resurrection. Again, I do not see that as anything “wrong”, yet I see it is much more than that…To say that was all there was reduces the reality we now have… the Kingdom at hand.

“And this Gospel of the Kingdom”

Jesus came and began preaching. We read in Matthew Jesus was teaching to watch out about false teachers and that a greater treachery would come. I am not going to go into the “desolation of abomination” because I am focused on the one phrase…

“And this Gospel of the Kingdom”

Jesus was preaching a Gospel… in that one must either believe that Jesus preached one Gospel and Paul another…as it seem some teach, yet I see that Paul’s gospel fits right in the Gospel that Jesus was bringing to us.

What was the Gospel of the Kingdom?

There is no way to adequately post all the intricate details that come with that question… so this will be a very brief and broad overview… For deeper reading I recommend N.T. Wright. In this I will be leaning heavily on his writings… Do not bother in telling me how Wright is all wrong about everything as I think he is contributing greatly with his insights… even if he may be off a bit here or there. To dismiss him would be a travesty.

The Gospel was not a new idea. In fact it was used by the Roman Empire to proclaim the new emperor.

NT Wright writes:

“In Paul’s day, the cult of Caesar was the fastest-growing religion in the Mediterranean world. In Rome itself the emperors did not claim full divine honors, but they did adopt the title “son of god”-the god in question being their recently deceased, and newly deified, predecessor. And in the provinces, from Greece and Turkey through the Middle East to Egypt, divinization was standard. The people had worshiped rulers before; why shouldn’t Augustus and his successors, with their extraordinary powers, receive the same divine honors?
So the imperial cult grew. Its “good news” was that Caesar, the son of God, was now the lord of the whole world, claiming allegiance from everybody in return for bringing salvation and justice to the world. Resistance was met with crucifixion. The system was based on sheer power.”

So the idea of a “Gospel” was not something new with Paul… or with Jesus… It was however directly subversive to proclaim another Gospel… as it was to say that Caesar was not divine, nor truly Lord… nor that his kingdom of supreme… With that Jesus proclaimed His Gospel in the face of Caesar and in defiance of Rome. Again, this was subversive and a political declaration of something greater that the Roman Empire… and that was the return of God and His Theocracy. The Gospel of Mark begins with the very proclamation,

Mark 1:1. The beginning of the gospel about Jesus Christ, the Son of God.

Originally God wanted to be King of Israel, yet Israel rejected God and chose Saul. Yet, at the appointed time God, through Jesus came to proclaim His Kingdom and would restore all things to Himself.

That was the Gospel of the Kingdom. This is the Gospel of Jesus and of Paul. The Gospel did not change as it went from Jesus to Paul, but kept complete continuity. This Gospel was what Paul proclaimed as he said: “every knee will bow before me; every tongue will confess to God.” (Rom 14:12) This was also in the proclamation of Caesar as it was demanded to obey Caesar or die.

In that continued Gospel it finds it’s fullness in Christ. Paul by revelation gives us insight to what Jesus taught of Himself… “Matthew 16: 21 From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, chief priests and teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.” Again, there is the continuity…

So we have the big picture… the Kingdom of God is now here… or as it is said, “at hand”. We also see the teaching of Jesus lines up with Paul.

We have one Gospel… it is not just about me… getting saved to go to heaven… though it is part of the story. Yet to stop there is to deny the Gospel in its fullness. The Gospel is the Proclamation that is taught in the Lord’s Prayer. “Your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.” (Matt 6:10)

That is the gospel… God’s Kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven and in it we are part of the bigger picture. This is the Abrahamic promise in fulfillment. We gentiles have been blessed through the Jews… by Jesus… we are now blessed to be a blessing to the world!

Blessings,
iggy


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