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Jay Bakker

January 27, 2011



Link to video

“You may not agree with me, but at least you will
learn to love me.” ~ Jay Bakker

Just some quick thoughts:

Powerful. Love covers a multitude of sin… not doctrinal statements… Those often create barriers between those Jesus reconciled and Jesus… Learning to love God and others is the core teaching of Jesus.

Your thoughts?

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Been a weird but busy couple of weeks

September 14, 2010
I have been a little silent on my blog. However, been hard at work in other areas… that as it may be, partly that I am looking for a job. Meanwhile, I am selling books on Amazon.com under the name Saving Faith Books (Yeah there are some books I would not rather sell) as well as changing the name of my radio station to Saving Faith Radio (which includes changing over the blog for the station.) I have been selling books pretty well.
The idea behind the station name change was this: I decided that iggyROCKS! sounded a bit amateur. I hope to move on and grow the station in a bit of a different direction and thought the name change to Saving Faith Radio might make it sound more interesting. My thinking is that 1. There is a saving faith that leads us to Jesus. 2. There are many out there who are hurting and their faith is fading, and they need a place to help save their faith. 3. It sounded a bit like saving face… Other than that, it just seemed a time for change. I did notice my numbers have changed dramatically as I was in the top 50 in my genre and now popped into the top 100. Mostly I believe is that no one can find me under the new name. It may take a while for the name to register with live365.com so for at time if you are still looking for my station, you can find it under iggyrocks. Also, I have started more live shows, and have figured out a way to take live calls. Believe me it is all very low-tech.
I also plan to add more shows and have been talking to JR Harrison, who is one of the Out Law Preachers to do an audio version of his blog sermons. I hope this will add a bit more spice to the mix.
While I am writing I might as well point to a few things around the blogosphere. JR Harrison’s blog as he has many great thoughts there… also Brandon Mouser calls out Ken Silva on his version of a picture (Brandon was present for the picture while Ken was sitting in his evil lair thinking of new things to make up.) It is funny reading good ole Ken as he has not changed and begins to sound more and more like Pee Wee Herman “I know you are, but what am I?”

I have fallen in love with the Out Law Preachers. While some are more radical about Grace than I am, I see God is doing something great with these radicals. So if you are on Twitter as well as on Facebook check them out.
I had a run in with an old friend. I still consider him a friend though since he has turned agnostic or atheist or whatever, he seems to be angered when I even try to interact with him. In fact his story is that he was a Fundamentalist Baptist, who slowly became a Christian Universalist, then read a book debunking the inerrancy and infallibility of the bible and so, lost his faith in God all together. I mentioned that these terms are not even taught in the bible (yes it is “God breathed” and “inspired” but I see those word often packed with meaning not found in the text itself… so when you find an original text we can talk further on infallibility, you might then have a strong case). He then went into strange rants about what I believe (though he was not even close) as well as telling me I must believe the bible is all Truth! Ummm… I pointed out that Satan is quoted in the Bible and his words are lies, not truth… yet sadly it just turned uglier and uglier… to the point he told me to “F*** off”. Well, I hope he is content… still sad to lose a friend I respected and loved over the years. It seemed that he went full circle in his fundamentalism mindset though. I know that Atheists bristle at the idea of being called a fundy, but you are… you have a belief system which is a “religion” of sorts… Believe me I knew guys whose religion is Harley Davidson so don’t tell me atheism is not a religion. You worship science, and your own knowledge… you worship self ego etc… etc… etc… If I turned atheist I would worship peanut butter and fishing… A friend pointed out this site I think expresses my thoughts in a humorous way about atheistic fundamentalist… check it out. Personally, the one big reason (besides not being able to deny that Jesus entered my life as He did) that I would never become an atheist or agnostic, is the ones I run into are just plain mean people. (Just watch the comments over that one!) BTW, I believe that this person worshiped the bible and Jesus wanted to break him of his idolatry… of course if he ever reads this he will blow a gasket (though he is never angry… haha!)
I also have been doing fund raising for different ministries in Africa and soon India… you have read a few past posts on this so I will not say much more other than I hope to move forward to start a non-profit organization soon that helps out small ministries that God seems to be bringing to me. 
Well, that is about it for now. I hope to get back teaching on my blog soon… so beware!
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Thinking about revival…

July 6, 2010
 
People speak of revival as if God is “out there” waiting to come down if we “repent” or do some other magical things. It is as if they see God is far away and can’t come down unless everything is perfect. Yet, true revival is letting Christ in you OUT of you. By doing the things of God, you are creating revival (or Resurrection) all around you as God works in and through you. If Jesus lives in you, how much closer can He get to you?

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Happy Father Day… even for the fatherless…

June 18, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZAkx6RlCLA

Father’s Day is coming up fast and I have mixed emotions. While I am glad to be a father, my own father died when I was young. This seemed to set me apart from other friends at times. Being fatherless often left me empty, but especially at times when not having a father sort felt like it was being rubbing in my face. Father/son camp outs or any other events that were father/son made me feel unwelcome. Father’s Day though made me want to just hide.
Yet, now that I am a father, I find it wonderful at the same time. Not that I am being “honored” rather that I am honored everyday to have two wonderful children I love very much. My life has been truly changed and opened wider by Fischer and Ciana. While I may still struggle at trying to figure out how to be a father, I am thankful for the men who did guide me on my way. Without their guidance and prayer who knows where I would be now. Mostly, I am thankful for my Father in Heaven who promised to be my Father as he promises all who are fatherless. He is the Father of the fatherless. If you did not have a father, be it he died, left you abandoned, remember the One True Father who will never leave you or forsake you. This is true even if you have a father who was not emotionally there or even abusive. The One True Father loves you far greater than you can imagine.
The hardest thing all of us have to do is trust Him… and even in that He will help you.
With God, there is no fatherless day…
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Email of the week…

May 30, 2010
This is someone who runs a “discernment” radio show who decided to email me and warn me about Leonard Sweet. When I looked at his sources I realized he was regurgitating the same old ODM’s that claim to do research yet, most often use each other as sources… and when traced back to the original source, these people have most often taken that quote or “statement” out of context and created a new context to build their straw man argument. Notice how quick he is to attack others (me in this case) and claim he is being slandered? I often wonder if these people are mentally imbalanced… I have no doubt they are spiritually sick with the spirit of religion. That may sound harsh, but I also believe them to be sincere and brothers and sisters in Christ who greatly need our prayer and love in hopes to turn them from their destructive ways. Considering the source and whom he has as sources… I would say that you are doing God’s work… Not sure I want to say whose work this person is doing… sad to say he is or was in the same denomination as me (which ironically, makes him a heretic according to some of the very people he uses as sources!) I have had some of the same kind of people send stuff to my pastor about me… oh and BTW I am not a pastor. = ) James Sundquist gave me permission to post his emails… I prayed about doing it as it also shows his accusations… but then realized that if anyone really looks at them, they will see what I say is true. Here is also a link to Leonard Sweet’s response to his critics. While I have only had a chance to talk to Leonard Sweet over email and Facebook, I found him to be a very nice person. I found his books of interest though I may disagree with him at times. I had to laugh about the accusation that Leonard Sweet is “emerging” as he is not. Many in emerging read his books and like his views, yet, Sweet has made it clear he is not emerging. I do feel sad though that someone is out there attacking Sweet though.
I found it weird that also Rick Warren is tossed in on the accusations against Sweet. While I many no agree fully with Rick Warrens ways of church growth, I have not found much in the things this person states. I left that movement for other reasons, but to accuse it of destroying churches is… well… you can fill in the blank there. I almost becomes comical when I interact with these people. They are predictable and I can almost state exactly what they will say next… and James Sundquist was no different. So, I post this to give warning of people who are divisive and argumentative… that claim to take the bible literal yet pick and choose things as to what they will believe… like not being divisive. Again, please pray for James, that God blesses him abundantly in the Way of Christ Jesus.
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From: James Sundquist [mailto:rock.salt@verizon.net]
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 6:05 AM
To: iggy@wwdb.org
Subject: How Leonard Sweet Corrupts Scripture and Former Roman Catholic Priest Richard Bennett video Exposing Sweet and Emerging Church news release
Dear Pastor Iggy,
I saw your blog. I once was a member of the Vineyard in CA where Ken Gulliksen was pastor and where Keith Green attended.
I noticed your blog talks about Leonard Sweet.
So I invite you to consider the following alert regarding Leonard Sweet. The complete report should be out in a few weeks.
Kindest regards in Christ,
James Sundquist
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Dear President Robin Baker, Dean, Faculty and Administration of George Fox University and fellow defenders of The Faith,
Please be alerted to the following news release concerning Leonard Sweet vs. Scripture:
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/leonardsweetquotes.html
&
http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/Church/post-modern/leonard-sweet.htm
Also, I invite you to hear former Roman Catholic priest (22 years) Richard Bennett, President and Founder of Berean Beacon video exposing Leonard Sweet and Emerging Church:
http://www.bereanbeacon.org/audio/Hazards_unfolded_by_Emerging_Church_leaders.mp3
Richard Bennett, who also taught at Multnomah Bible College (now also becoming increasingly mystical) will be sounding the alarm on His Holy Hill later this month when he releases his DVD on the Mystic Plague in the Church. Having been a Roman Catholic priest for 22 years, he knows as much as anyone about the false teachings of the very Roman Catholic mystics that Leonard Sweet so admirably quotes. Richard Bennett is shocked that Christians leaders would promote the very heretics he just escaped from.
I also invite you to consider Pastor Bob DeWaay’s new book comparing Emerging Church to Scripture at:
http://cicministry.org/
In Leonard Sweet’s response (http://www.leonardsweet.com/response.php) to online discernment ministries who are simply good Bereans searching the Scriptures to see if “these things (Sweet’s teachings) “be true”, Leonard Sweet attacks these defenders of the faith, but gives absolutely no Scriptural refutation, as the Apostle Paul requires, and ODMs have done, as I document in the websites enclosed in this letter. I remind Mr. Sweet that slanderers and those who bear false witness against a brother will not enter the Kingdom of God.
In this response Leonard Sweet uses Colossians Chapter 3 to defend his own teaching and philosophy. But Colossians refutes the very Colossian Heresy that Sweet espouses:
“See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ.” (Colossians 2:8)
In other words mixing Eastern and Western philosophy, exactly what Sweet’s Cosmic Christ (and Rick Warren) and many Emerging Leaders promote. Many scholars confirm that gnosticism, mysticism and a higher spiritual formation experience and its variations is what the Colossian heresy was referring.
See:
http://cicministry.org/commentary/issue69.htm
Sweet further states in his response to defenders of the Faith:
“Jesus did not come to make us divine. Jesus came to show us how to be authentically what God made us to be–human. Because of the culture in
which we live, I have encouraged the daily ritual of starting the day by standing in front of a mirror and saying: “God is God and I am not.””
It is true that God did not come to make us divine, but which Scripture (that Sweet can’t cite) teaches that Jesus came to teach us how to be authentically
more human? This is completely heretical! Jesus did not come to teach use how to be more human but appease his Father’s wrath through the
substitutionary atonement, and to crucify the old human (man) and become a New Creation, that many of Sweet’s friends and colleagues renounce in the
Emerging Church Movement.
Leonard Sweet may very well be friends with his fellow Emergent Church leaders such as Brian McLaren and others like Rick Warren and Richard Foster (another Carl Jung promoter), but Scripture states:
“know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.” James 4:4
So Sweet should not be simply critiquing Brian McLaren, rather exposing his deeds of darkness and publicly marking him and other mystics as a false teachers not quoting them and promoting them and repenting of the promoting them himself and stumbling countless children of the Most High God!
Finally, Leonard Sweet gives thanks for being introduced to Joseph Campbell (“Power of Myth”) disciple of occultist Carl Jung [whom Rick Warren — a collaborator with Leonard Sweet] promotes in his SHAPE Personality Temperament Divination Profiling that I documented in my own book Who’s Driving the Purpose Driven Church (Published by Southwest Radio Church swrc.com), also published in The Conservative Theological Journal at Tyndale Theological Seminary and the Journal of Biblical Apologetics, and now posted on
Youtube at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qW6aroPRx8
I find it ironic that Leonard Sweet and his colleague Rick Warren would BOTH threaten whom Rick Warren call “resisters” and “enemies of the 21st Century” and Sweet himself says “change of be changed…Reinvent yourself for the 21st Century or die.” (Leonard Sweet, Soul Tsunami: Sink or Swim in the New Millennium Culture (Zondervan, 1999), p. 74-75). If you want to find out what happens to saints in churches who do resist these change agents? Read the case studies in my second book Rick Warren’s Global Peace Plan vs. Scriptural Teachings on Peace at theperfectpeaceplan.com. Both Rick Warren and Rick Warren are bitter/sweet as Scripture records sweet to the taste but bitter to the victims:
“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!”
Isaiah 5:20
Sincerely in Christ,
James Sundquist
Director
Rock Salt Publishing
http://www.voiceoftruthradio.com/james.htm
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On May 29, 2010, at 11:09 AM, iggy wrote:
Thanks for the concern. I know many of the people you are using as sources and would consider them as not have their facts straight. Have you read anything by Leonard Sweet himself? If not I really recommend you do before you contribute to spreading some of the rumors you have in this email.
It looks like you may have fallen into a very divisive and hurtful segment of the “discernment” crowd who rarely have done their research. Believe me I know, some of them also have written about me…
Be blessed with God’s best,
iggy
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From: James Sundquist [mailto:rock.salt@verizon.net]
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 10:26 AM
To: iggy
Subject: p.s. re Rick Warren & Sweet
Dear Iggy,
Most assuredly you have attacked me with an ad hominem accusation, in effect, telling me that I have born false witness and slandered Leonard Sweet. But you have yet to supply a shred of proof. So now that you have accused me, you must supply poof!
I would also like to know where Richard Bennett has born false witness?
A few more questions for you:
You asked me if I have read anything by Sweet himself. Yes his statements.
Here is a question for you:
Have you ever talked to any of the churches and members of churches that have been dismembered by the propeller of Rick Warren’s Purpose Driven Church programs (one of Leonard Sweet’s collaborators) because they resisted their church being hijacked? I have heard the documented accounts of a host of saints that have, as has Dr. Noah Hutchings, President of Southwest Radio, and Pastor Bob DeWaay in Minneapolis. Have you read Warren’s collaborator Dan Sutherland’s blueprint for resisters to Rick Warren’s PDC and Global Peace Plan? Have you talked to Loren Davis, a missionary for a quarter of a century in Africa who has to pick up the pieces left in Warren’s wake? My wife’s folks Christian and Missionary Alliance Church split twice in two years and has been left shattered because of Rick Warren’s blueprints. These people can read every book either Warren or Sweet have written, but your words would sound hollow to them. And they wouldn’t be interested in reading and more books by destroyers of the brethren anyway. What is ultimately sad is that you as pastor would not be a good watchman on the wall to protect your flock from these men who are masquerading as servants of righteousness. Your words are not unlike the retaliation I receive from Purpose Driven Pastors who have shown virtually no compassion to those Christians that have been purpose-driven from their flocks and failed to provide proof that I have borne false witness or did they reason from Scripture to refute me. But I guess this should be of no surprise, since many of them after all are as Warren said “Fundamentalists Christians are enemies of the 21st Century”…”resisters”…haven’t evolved enough…won’t change as Sweet would say so they will be forced to be changed. You have only confirmed the urgency of my publishing a complete report on Leonard Sweet.
Nevertheless, it is good to know that you are a Sweet collaborator, so I will know to names names, as the Apostle Paul commands. If you defend sweet, then you are not following or obeying Jesus Christ.
Sincerely in Christ,
James Sundquist
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From: iggy [mailto:iggy@wwdb.org]
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 10:33 AM
To: ‘James Sundquist’
Subject: RE: p.s. re Rick Warren & Sweet
Mr. Sundquist,
I am not playing your game. I have told you I have been a victim and then you accuse me of more.
Gossip is a sin my friend… please stop gossiping about others.
Great, name names and spread the gossip! Please! Every time you guys do so, my readership goes up and I am connected with more people doing God’s work. So please, keep naming names. It helps me in my ministry! God does great things for me and through me when I am attacked by you guys.
Go forth and bless me… I will pray for God’s blessings on you and your ministry.
May you grow in the grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ.
iggy
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